Thank you for this, and for the brilliant maps you provided (and continue to improve) via your Neoliberal Feudalism essay, which everyone who cares about The Good, The Beautiful, and The True, every member of Westernkind and everyone who appreciates the blessings of Western Civilization ought study.
For some beautiful historical perspective and inspiration, I recommend Asha Logos' series
Somewhat off-topic, but responding to your link on the surface, I have an impression that after the extinction of the Aryan race, history as a subject will largely cease. It was only the Christcucked humbleness that allowed the Europeans to recognise the beginning of civilisation not in Britain and not even in Judaea, but in Egypt and Mesopotamia. Oera Linda and the Book of Veles are what Juche Korean historiography looks like - a foundational myth, a useful meme for spreading one's genes, yet not truthful in the Christcuck sense.
On balance I agree with the dissident point of view you present, even though I describe myself as a conservative in my politics, lifestyle and Christian belief system. I thank you for your “dissident framework” article. It challenges my beliefs and stretches my thinking. I do not find it depressing; rather, it’s stimulating and thought-provoking. You have a brilliant mind and you convey your thoughts and ideas very well in your writing.
Pauline Christianity (athenian school) is considered to be more based, rooted in hellenic and spiritual tradition. Marcionites cheer on Paul... the petrine jerusalem school is considered to be the problem. Peter the judaizer is disliked by dissidents
The demiurge theory is that it does not have a soul and wants to punish mankind by taking theirs away.
Hi Doomerurge, I think Marcionism is fascinating - especially its focus on material/spiritual dualism - and my understanding is Rolo Slavskiy considers himself a believer. Nietzsche thought that Paul initiated the original transvaluation of values and then spread it among the gentiles as a weapon of war. I go into his argument here: https://neofeudalism.substack.com/p/deeper-societal-trends-predating
If you have something specific on the Marcionite Peter vs Paul distinction, I'm happy to take a look at it...
There was a big thread about pauline christianity on the gamer uprising... but the forum has been down for awhile now. You might be able to use the wayback machine it is titled 'pauline christianity'
Plato invented the demiurge concept, he believed that it was benevolent. However the stuff it uses to fashion the material universe is infected with chaos or something... building a house out of faulty material? Others believe it is mad... christian buddhists believe it is malicious.
Def agree with some, but not all, of your takes here. Def I should think the Rothchilds are above the Royal family now... they bought their way into Queen Victoria’s good books by buying her a number of palaces that we all associate with the royal family now (including the late queen’s beloved Balmoral and Sandringham), as well as loaning the UK the money to buy the Suez Canal.
I’m not sure it’s just bankers though... I believe some of the ruling families that moved from the failing sea power state of Venice to the UK (and made it an even greater ruling sea power) may have even more power and money, they just keep quiet about it and have others do the moving and shaking.
How wish I could say your insights are wrong. But better uncomfortable truths than pretty lies. And it’s nice to realize that I’m basically a dissident! I’m more than ok with that.
I’m glad to have found your stack. The comments & notes sections on Substack can yield fantastic new people to follow. You write with such precision and care, it’s a treat to read.
Thanks for this list. I agree with most of the points here, but you're wrong about Pauline Christianity as the source of egalitarianism.
Traditional Christianity preaches hierarchy, not egalitarianism. St. Paul even demands that slaves submit to masters, and that wives submit to husbands.
It is only after the 11th Century schism between Eastern and Western churches that the latter started to think in humanistic and materialist terms -- thus the earthly figure of The Pope, 'The Vicar of Christ' and 'universal bishop.'
Of course, this egalitarian emphasis accelerated after The Reformation. The Catholics' Counter-Reformation involved Rome adopting Protestant rhetoric and doctrine.
However, similar trends cannot be observed in the East, except insofar as the Western variety of Christendom has penetrated The Balkans and Russia.
In summary, The Western Schism led to transsexualism and LGBT degeneracy. This is a bitter pill for most to swallow.
Pavel Florensky and Seraphim Rose neatly dissect how this state of affairs came about. To pin this on Paul of Tarsus is incorrect.
Hi Ignatius, I agree with you that the Orthodox Church has remained much more stable in its outlook and approach than Catholicism, and it has retained a commendable internal balance against the vicissitudes of the world. I found Seraphim Rose's writings too targeted to Orthodox readers, but am almost finished with Timothy/Kallistos Ware's "The Orthodox Church" which I have found more accessible and will try to do a writeup on it when finished, although I will likely supplement with other reads first (looking at David Bentley Hart).
They sided with the bolsheviks? Besides the orthodox preach the same anti-tribal universalism... not sure if they like equality as much as the western churches.
Hi Doomeruge, yes, the Bolsheviks pressured and installed the Russian Orthodox leaders to accede to atheist communist political rule which was opposed to their fundamental existence, and yes, I believe the radical egalitarianism of Christianity is rooted in the very beginnings with Paul. But the Orthodox church is more or less the same church as it's been for centuries, with a solid hierarchy and not woke; compare to Catholicism with Vatican 2 and having a gay globohomo Pope, it's been hollowed out. It's a complicated thing...
I’ve seen many thoughtful articles about people who are seeking out Orthodox Churches for their spiritual home. I wish that they were more prevalent. There aren’t any near us at this time. The overall Christian response to the covid psyop was very disheartening. Coupled with how swiftly the rot of the culture wars has permeated Western Christianity, and how most services seems more like an entertainment venue these days, my walk with the Lord has become a somewhat solitary one these past few years.
One bright thing that I think will happen will be a new wave of small home group gatherings of believers.
Paul also emphasised the law written on men's hearts. How is that a large leap to see in it a precursor to the ever more egalitarian nature of Christians? Galatians 3:28 is a damning evidence, too.
Regarding the Eastern church - as I have already written here, we cannot ascertain anything of note about the Orthodox church because it died in 1453. The Greek peasants and Russian serfs are not exactly a driving force for a civilisation.
The most fascinating thing of all - this egalitarian trend is so pervasive, people are uncomfortable with the idea of discarding a certain continent or culture based on their uselessness and inferiority in the final reckoning.
See, on my cultural map, I marked the African and Amerindian areas as "savage lands" as they are utterly inconsequential for history, and lack a shred of sovereignty. Whereas you will try seriously to examine random Syrian cave-dwelling monks and compare them to the illustrious tale of Italy, the United Provinces or England! Sometimes, a modicum of racial bigotry could prove of aid.
Today's Democratic Party has been bought by Wall St. They are not run by liberals any more. What today's Democratic Party offers is trans equality, if you will (to riff on John Carter's trans rich phrase).
What is Intersectionality and other forms of Modern Indignation Studies? Answer: they are degrees in grovelling. This is a sign of excess aristocracy (or oligarchy if you prefer).
We have seen this gayness and castration before. Look at portraits of French aristocrats from the days of Louis XIV. 11.3 of the Liberace scale. Or look to imperial China, where men had their equipment removed entirely so they could be high level civil servants.
Populism is the way. As you wrote above, we need our middle class back. We need viable small farms back.
Donald Trump had only part of the required populist program: enforce the national picket line.
Another part is to stop subsidizing the already rich. That is, balance the damn budget. That's how we rein in the central bankers.
This will be the subject of my next two Rules. I'm going to make the Club for Growth crowd cry.
I disagree on the Demiurge point. Even if the world is totally under the dominion of the Enemy it should still be resisted at every turn. The troons must be fought against simply because we should see it as a duty to our own hearts to spit in the Enemy's face any chance we can get, even as he looms over us preparing our death blow. If we keep even one child from being destroyed by some Leftist freak it is worth the struggle. And who knows? People follow the strong horse and victories can avalanche.
Thank you for this, and for the brilliant maps you provided (and continue to improve) via your Neoliberal Feudalism essay, which everyone who cares about The Good, The Beautiful, and The True, every member of Westernkind and everyone who appreciates the blessings of Western Civilization ought study.
For some beautiful historical perspective and inspiration, I recommend Asha Logos' series
https://odysee.com/Asha-Logos---Our-Subverted-History---The-Oera-Linda-Book:1
Somewhat off-topic, but responding to your link on the surface, I have an impression that after the extinction of the Aryan race, history as a subject will largely cease. It was only the Christcucked humbleness that allowed the Europeans to recognise the beginning of civilisation not in Britain and not even in Judaea, but in Egypt and Mesopotamia. Oera Linda and the Book of Veles are what Juche Korean historiography looks like - a foundational myth, a useful meme for spreading one's genes, yet not truthful in the Christcuck sense.
On balance I agree with the dissident point of view you present, even though I describe myself as a conservative in my politics, lifestyle and Christian belief system. I thank you for your “dissident framework” article. It challenges my beliefs and stretches my thinking. I do not find it depressing; rather, it’s stimulating and thought-provoking. You have a brilliant mind and you convey your thoughts and ideas very well in your writing.
Pauline Christianity (athenian school) is considered to be more based, rooted in hellenic and spiritual tradition. Marcionites cheer on Paul... the petrine jerusalem school is considered to be the problem. Peter the judaizer is disliked by dissidents
The demiurge theory is that it does not have a soul and wants to punish mankind by taking theirs away.
Hi Doomerurge, I think Marcionism is fascinating - especially its focus on material/spiritual dualism - and my understanding is Rolo Slavskiy considers himself a believer. Nietzsche thought that Paul initiated the original transvaluation of values and then spread it among the gentiles as a weapon of war. I go into his argument here: https://neofeudalism.substack.com/p/deeper-societal-trends-predating
If you have something specific on the Marcionite Peter vs Paul distinction, I'm happy to take a look at it...
There was a big thread about pauline christianity on the gamer uprising... but the forum has been down for awhile now. You might be able to use the wayback machine it is titled 'pauline christianity'
Plato invented the demiurge concept, he believed that it was benevolent. However the stuff it uses to fashion the material universe is infected with chaos or something... building a house out of faulty material? Others believe it is mad... christian buddhists believe it is malicious.
Def agree with some, but not all, of your takes here. Def I should think the Rothchilds are above the Royal family now... they bought their way into Queen Victoria’s good books by buying her a number of palaces that we all associate with the royal family now (including the late queen’s beloved Balmoral and Sandringham), as well as loaning the UK the money to buy the Suez Canal.
I’m not sure it’s just bankers though... I believe some of the ruling families that moved from the failing sea power state of Venice to the UK (and made it an even greater ruling sea power) may have even more power and money, they just keep quiet about it and have others do the moving and shaking.
How wish I could say your insights are wrong. But better uncomfortable truths than pretty lies. And it’s nice to realize that I’m basically a dissident! I’m more than ok with that.
I’m glad to have found your stack. The comments & notes sections on Substack can yield fantastic new people to follow. You write with such precision and care, it’s a treat to read.
Thanks for this list. I agree with most of the points here, but you're wrong about Pauline Christianity as the source of egalitarianism.
Traditional Christianity preaches hierarchy, not egalitarianism. St. Paul even demands that slaves submit to masters, and that wives submit to husbands.
It is only after the 11th Century schism between Eastern and Western churches that the latter started to think in humanistic and materialist terms -- thus the earthly figure of The Pope, 'The Vicar of Christ' and 'universal bishop.'
Of course, this egalitarian emphasis accelerated after The Reformation. The Catholics' Counter-Reformation involved Rome adopting Protestant rhetoric and doctrine.
However, similar trends cannot be observed in the East, except insofar as the Western variety of Christendom has penetrated The Balkans and Russia.
In summary, The Western Schism led to transsexualism and LGBT degeneracy. This is a bitter pill for most to swallow.
Pavel Florensky and Seraphim Rose neatly dissect how this state of affairs came about. To pin this on Paul of Tarsus is incorrect.
Hi Ignatius, I agree with you that the Orthodox Church has remained much more stable in its outlook and approach than Catholicism, and it has retained a commendable internal balance against the vicissitudes of the world. I found Seraphim Rose's writings too targeted to Orthodox readers, but am almost finished with Timothy/Kallistos Ware's "The Orthodox Church" which I have found more accessible and will try to do a writeup on it when finished, although I will likely supplement with other reads first (looking at David Bentley Hart).
They sided with the bolsheviks? Besides the orthodox preach the same anti-tribal universalism... not sure if they like equality as much as the western churches.
Hi Doomeruge, yes, the Bolsheviks pressured and installed the Russian Orthodox leaders to accede to atheist communist political rule which was opposed to their fundamental existence, and yes, I believe the radical egalitarianism of Christianity is rooted in the very beginnings with Paul. But the Orthodox church is more or less the same church as it's been for centuries, with a solid hierarchy and not woke; compare to Catholicism with Vatican 2 and having a gay globohomo Pope, it's been hollowed out. It's a complicated thing...
I’ve seen many thoughtful articles about people who are seeking out Orthodox Churches for their spiritual home. I wish that they were more prevalent. There aren’t any near us at this time. The overall Christian response to the covid psyop was very disheartening. Coupled with how swiftly the rot of the culture wars has permeated Western Christianity, and how most services seems more like an entertainment venue these days, my walk with the Lord has become a somewhat solitary one these past few years.
One bright thing that I think will happen will be a new wave of small home group gatherings of believers.
Paul also emphasised the law written on men's hearts. How is that a large leap to see in it a precursor to the ever more egalitarian nature of Christians? Galatians 3:28 is a damning evidence, too.
Regarding the Eastern church - as I have already written here, we cannot ascertain anything of note about the Orthodox church because it died in 1453. The Greek peasants and Russian serfs are not exactly a driving force for a civilisation.
The most fascinating thing of all - this egalitarian trend is so pervasive, people are uncomfortable with the idea of discarding a certain continent or culture based on their uselessness and inferiority in the final reckoning.
See, on my cultural map, I marked the African and Amerindian areas as "savage lands" as they are utterly inconsequential for history, and lack a shred of sovereignty. Whereas you will try seriously to examine random Syrian cave-dwelling monks and compare them to the illustrious tale of Italy, the United Provinces or England! Sometimes, a modicum of racial bigotry could prove of aid.
Today's Democratic Party has been bought by Wall St. They are not run by liberals any more. What today's Democratic Party offers is trans equality, if you will (to riff on John Carter's trans rich phrase).
What is Intersectionality and other forms of Modern Indignation Studies? Answer: they are degrees in grovelling. This is a sign of excess aristocracy (or oligarchy if you prefer).
We have seen this gayness and castration before. Look at portraits of French aristocrats from the days of Louis XIV. 11.3 of the Liberace scale. Or look to imperial China, where men had their equipment removed entirely so they could be high level civil servants.
Populism is the way. As you wrote above, we need our middle class back. We need viable small farms back.
Donald Trump had only part of the required populist program: enforce the national picket line.
Another part is to stop subsidizing the already rich. That is, balance the damn budget. That's how we rein in the central bankers.
This will be the subject of my next two Rules. I'm going to make the Club for Growth crowd cry.
Most of the negatives from marriage and divorce can be solved with a marriage contract. In the 19th Century this was normal.
Hi Ziggy, do you mean a prenuptual agreement? Liberal courts routinely modify and throw them out these days...
I disagree on the Demiurge point. Even if the world is totally under the dominion of the Enemy it should still be resisted at every turn. The troons must be fought against simply because we should see it as a duty to our own hearts to spit in the Enemy's face any chance we can get, even as he looms over us preparing our death blow. If we keep even one child from being destroyed by some Leftist freak it is worth the struggle. And who knows? People follow the strong horse and victories can avalanche.