Falling Down is more civnat than anything else, they just did the movie a bit before it became absolutely haram to portray minorities negatively so it superficially looks based by having some latino thugs and a "you get out my store" asian. The only actual murder Michael Douglas does is of course the white neo-nazi who of course is also a gay rapist, and of course the main character turns into Captain America for that part. He might as well say "I don't see color I just see breakfast menu schedules!"
I would list the Sergio Leone classic A Fistful of Dynamite(also known as Duck you Sucker) as a dissident film. The film is set during the early 20th century Mexican revolution and stars James Coburn, in his best role, as an explosives expert for the IRA who had to flee Ireland and Rod Steiger as a Mexican outlaw bandit. These 2 meet up and become unlikely friends while fighting against tyranny. The opening scene of the film is absolutely extraordinary, would try to describe it but words won’t do it justice. Have seen this film many times and it never ever gets old, highly recommended.
Thanks Gonzo, I'm a little wary of covering all the spaghetti westerns given lack of time and concerns about repetition. If you think it stands out as exceptional I will check it out...
It’s in my top 5 movies of all time list, it’s very different from Leone’s work with Clint Eastwood. Watch the first 20 minutes, an absolute masterclass in cinematography
I'm very curious about the dissident nature of Falling Down. The filmmaking world is overwhelmingly of the left so can a conservative-coded film be seen as dissident in that regard? Or do we only think of dissident as being left-coded? What do we make of the faith-based films that are scoring big at the box office completely outside of the Hollywood studio and independent film worlds?
Thanks for the comment and questions, Sherman. I included The Passion of the Christ, which Mel Gibson self funded and distributed without any support from the Hollywood system, in Part 1. Re: other faith-based films scoring big at the box office that you think have dissident themes, do you have any that you would recommend? I’d be happy to check it out.
You’re right that the filmmaking world is overwhelmingly of the left, which is why I preambled this post with: “I’ll be the first to acknowledge that most of the films on the list can be viewed from multiple perspectives; without that multiple layering, in a rigidly ideological far-leftist Hollywood echo chamber it’s likely those films would not have been made. In other words, ambiguous meaning is really the best one can hope for in this environment.”
Re: Falling Down, the main character is a victim of the system which has discarded him, left him behind in a globalized world. It acknowledges his grievances and treats them seriously, he is right to be angry, even if his particular use of that anger is misguided - unlike today with Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” and similar language.
Just a couple of comments for now: "Nicholas & Alexandra" has apparently stood the test of time. Now, will want to see it again so many decades after having seen it in the theater as a kid. I'm still traumatized by the depiction of the murder of the Romanovs. Nice to see it on your list.
I only remember the title of "Africa Addio" - never seen the film itself. It was "for adults only" and my parents went to see it. They spoke to us children only in generalities of the horrific images of violence in the film. I don't think I'll ever want to see it myself, though.
I am surprised nobody has recommended Andrei Rublev (1966) yet. Tarkovsky’s masterpiece was censored for many years in the USSR for its axiomatic defense of Christianity.
Also, I am bit perplexed that anyone would hate to see Eyes Wide Shut on a list like this. The film has done a lot to expose the perverted occultism of our elites. It’s a red-pilling film for many people.
If you don't have kids, the Netflix teen miniseries "The Unlisted" probably flew under your radar. You should check it out. It is AMAZINGLY subversive. The premise of the film (which is based on a series of novels) is that a globalist organization inserts mind control microchips into kids, at school, under the pretext of dental treatment. The protagonists live in a supportive, traditional family, and the character who starts off trusting the authorities soon learns not to.
Have you considered "Kingsman: The Secret Service" released in 2015? It concerns a plot by a tech billionaire to destroy most of the world's population using mind control through free smartphones. The billionaire, Richmond Valentine, is a black man who recruits most of the elites in the world, and provides them with protection and prior warning so that they can hide out in bunkers during the mass kill-off.
I have seen it, but my main takeaway from the film was the main character gleefully mass murdering everyone in a church in an extended sequence (like 10+ minutes). That and a bunch of anal sex jokes…
Still surprising that something so revealing was produced and released by Hollywood in the 21st century. Compare "The Sum Of All Fears", in which the plot of the novel was completely changed in the cinematic version to comply with the official narrative.
re: changes to the plot of Sum of All Fears, a whole generation of normiecon civnats should have been red pilled right then and there. Maybe a few of them were, but it couldn't have been very many.
great list. I’m currently reading Doctor Zhivago after seeing the film several times.
I find it to be extremely relevant to the present climate. as you say, it’s about a guy desperately trying to hold on to his humanity as revolution, war and political upheaval threaten his entire world. it’s hard not to identify with Zhivago these days. though fictional, it offers me hope on how to navigate the chaos of the Regime through Faith, Art and Love.
also, a few dissent adjacent films that come to mind are Repo Man and The City of Lost Children.
Richard Jewell definitely qualifies I think. Also The 15:17 to Paris. It would be interesting to consider Clint Eastwood's entire oeuvre from this perspective. His most recent films strike me as more overtly political, and at least adjacent to a dissident outlook - but I'd be interested to hear any counterarguments. The work he produced in his 80s is astonishing.
Ah yes, I remember the 15:17. It was almost a documentary style film and cast the actual soldiers who were involved in the incident, which was a very unusual choice (they did fine in the role). I don't remember it as particularly political though, no? What themes did you take away from it? Yes, it's astonishing how he has kept up his work into his 90s...
I saw something about this awhile ago but thought it was too in-your-face political; making the message the movie takes away from it. Was your impression different?
It is totally in-da-face for anyone reading stuff like yours.
It may be a wake-up call for many people slowly understanding there is something wrong with the world. Its an independent film made for cookies but looks as professional as can be.
Bland for you, possible eye opener for more "normal" people.
Please someone tell me I'm not the only one who saw this crazy movie. I rented it on VHS back in the day, it was panned by the newspapers, old guys I knew hated it, it never got an official DVD release. I found it on Youtube, probably haven't seen it in 30 years.
Dennis Hopper and a crew of Nam vets flying a B-17 across the US illegally broadcasting pirate tv/radio (S&M TV) during a presidential election season featuring a mystery female candidate they consider dangerous to America.
Thank you and the others for the recommendations, much appreciated.
Try out the following ones; I also tried to give them a rating analogously to the 8 themes concerning the acceptance of inegalitarianism described in your first post. I find it particularly hard though to think of better known movies about the promotion of religion and immigration restrictionism.
Snowpiercer (2013, not the same-named mini series) - covers 6 out of 8 themes
Metropolis (1927) - covers 5 out 8 themes
Metro Manila (2013) - covers 4 out 8 themes
War / Война (2002) - covers 4 out 8 themes
The Wind That Shakes the Barley (2006) - covers 4 out of 8 themes
THX 1138 (1971) - covers 4 out 8 themes
Network (1976) - covers 4 out 8 themes
Squid Game Season 1 (2021) - covers 3 out 8 themes
Ergo Proxy (2006, the anime series) - covers 3 out of 8 themes
Falling Down is more civnat than anything else, they just did the movie a bit before it became absolutely haram to portray minorities negatively so it superficially looks based by having some latino thugs and a "you get out my store" asian. The only actual murder Michael Douglas does is of course the white neo-nazi who of course is also a gay rapist, and of course the main character turns into Captain America for that part. He might as well say "I don't see color I just see breakfast menu schedules!"
Yeah, there's definitely multiple ways to interpret it...
Best analysis of Falling Down I've ever seen - lean and perfectly aimed!
Stoked to watch Africa Addio. Thanks for the recommendation 👍
I would list the Sergio Leone classic A Fistful of Dynamite(also known as Duck you Sucker) as a dissident film. The film is set during the early 20th century Mexican revolution and stars James Coburn, in his best role, as an explosives expert for the IRA who had to flee Ireland and Rod Steiger as a Mexican outlaw bandit. These 2 meet up and become unlikely friends while fighting against tyranny. The opening scene of the film is absolutely extraordinary, would try to describe it but words won’t do it justice. Have seen this film many times and it never ever gets old, highly recommended.
Thanks Gonzo, I'm a little wary of covering all the spaghetti westerns given lack of time and concerns about repetition. If you think it stands out as exceptional I will check it out...
It’s in my top 5 movies of all time list, it’s very different from Leone’s work with Clint Eastwood. Watch the first 20 minutes, an absolute masterclass in cinematography
I'm very curious about the dissident nature of Falling Down. The filmmaking world is overwhelmingly of the left so can a conservative-coded film be seen as dissident in that regard? Or do we only think of dissident as being left-coded? What do we make of the faith-based films that are scoring big at the box office completely outside of the Hollywood studio and independent film worlds?
Thanks for the comment and questions, Sherman. I included The Passion of the Christ, which Mel Gibson self funded and distributed without any support from the Hollywood system, in Part 1. Re: other faith-based films scoring big at the box office that you think have dissident themes, do you have any that you would recommend? I’d be happy to check it out.
You’re right that the filmmaking world is overwhelmingly of the left, which is why I preambled this post with: “I’ll be the first to acknowledge that most of the films on the list can be viewed from multiple perspectives; without that multiple layering, in a rigidly ideological far-leftist Hollywood echo chamber it’s likely those films would not have been made. In other words, ambiguous meaning is really the best one can hope for in this environment.”
Re: Falling Down, the main character is a victim of the system which has discarded him, left him behind in a globalized world. It acknowledges his grievances and treats them seriously, he is right to be angry, even if his particular use of that anger is misguided - unlike today with Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” and similar language.
Just a couple of comments for now: "Nicholas & Alexandra" has apparently stood the test of time. Now, will want to see it again so many decades after having seen it in the theater as a kid. I'm still traumatized by the depiction of the murder of the Romanovs. Nice to see it on your list.
I only remember the title of "Africa Addio" - never seen the film itself. It was "for adults only" and my parents went to see it. They spoke to us children only in generalities of the horrific images of violence in the film. I don't think I'll ever want to see it myself, though.
Thank you for a very interesting list. If you have time, how about a list of good documentaries?
I am surprised nobody has recommended Andrei Rublev (1966) yet. Tarkovsky’s masterpiece was censored for many years in the USSR for its axiomatic defense of Christianity.
Also, I am bit perplexed that anyone would hate to see Eyes Wide Shut on a list like this. The film has done a lot to expose the perverted occultism of our elites. It’s a red-pilling film for many people.
The Network (1976) is a must watch. Very illuminating depiction of the propaganda machine.
A great commentary on omnipotent media and globalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35DSdw7dHjs
Best dissident film ever? THE JONES PLANTATION. Written by the brilliant Larkin Rose. Newly released.
If you don't have kids, the Netflix teen miniseries "The Unlisted" probably flew under your radar. You should check it out. It is AMAZINGLY subversive. The premise of the film (which is based on a series of novels) is that a globalist organization inserts mind control microchips into kids, at school, under the pretext of dental treatment. The protagonists live in a supportive, traditional family, and the character who starts off trusting the authorities soon learns not to.
I will check it out, thank you.
Have you considered "Kingsman: The Secret Service" released in 2015? It concerns a plot by a tech billionaire to destroy most of the world's population using mind control through free smartphones. The billionaire, Richmond Valentine, is a black man who recruits most of the elites in the world, and provides them with protection and prior warning so that they can hide out in bunkers during the mass kill-off.
I have seen it, but my main takeaway from the film was the main character gleefully mass murdering everyone in a church in an extended sequence (like 10+ minutes). That and a bunch of anal sex jokes…
Still surprising that something so revealing was produced and released by Hollywood in the 21st century. Compare "The Sum Of All Fears", in which the plot of the novel was completely changed in the cinematic version to comply with the official narrative.
re: changes to the plot of Sum of All Fears, a whole generation of normiecon civnats should have been red pilled right then and there. Maybe a few of them were, but it couldn't have been very many.
great list. I’m currently reading Doctor Zhivago after seeing the film several times.
I find it to be extremely relevant to the present climate. as you say, it’s about a guy desperately trying to hold on to his humanity as revolution, war and political upheaval threaten his entire world. it’s hard not to identify with Zhivago these days. though fictional, it offers me hope on how to navigate the chaos of the Regime through Faith, Art and Love.
also, a few dissent adjacent films that come to mind are Repo Man and The City of Lost Children.
Thanks, I will check them out.
Richard Jewell definitely qualifies I think. Also The 15:17 to Paris. It would be interesting to consider Clint Eastwood's entire oeuvre from this perspective. His most recent films strike me as more overtly political, and at least adjacent to a dissident outlook - but I'd be interested to hear any counterarguments. The work he produced in his 80s is astonishing.
Ah yes, I remember the 15:17. It was almost a documentary style film and cast the actual soldiers who were involved in the incident, which was a very unusual choice (they did fine in the role). I don't remember it as particularly political though, no? What themes did you take away from it? Yes, it's astonishing how he has kept up his work into his 90s...
Jones Plantation.
I saw something about this awhile ago but thought it was too in-your-face political; making the message the movie takes away from it. Was your impression different?
It is totally in-da-face for anyone reading stuff like yours.
It may be a wake-up call for many people slowly understanding there is something wrong with the world. Its an independent film made for cookies but looks as professional as can be.
Bland for you, possible eye opener for more "normal" people.
Btw, what about the Matrix? Too bland too?
Riders Of The Storm (1986)
Please someone tell me I'm not the only one who saw this crazy movie. I rented it on VHS back in the day, it was panned by the newspapers, old guys I knew hated it, it never got an official DVD release. I found it on Youtube, probably haven't seen it in 30 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IByAfvl3270
Dennis Hopper and a crew of Nam vets flying a B-17 across the US illegally broadcasting pirate tv/radio (S&M TV) during a presidential election season featuring a mystery female candidate they consider dangerous to America.
I'll check it out, thank you.
Thank you and the others for the recommendations, much appreciated.
Try out the following ones; I also tried to give them a rating analogously to the 8 themes concerning the acceptance of inegalitarianism described in your first post. I find it particularly hard though to think of better known movies about the promotion of religion and immigration restrictionism.
Snowpiercer (2013, not the same-named mini series) - covers 6 out of 8 themes
Metropolis (1927) - covers 5 out 8 themes
Metro Manila (2013) - covers 4 out 8 themes
War / Война (2002) - covers 4 out 8 themes
The Wind That Shakes the Barley (2006) - covers 4 out of 8 themes
THX 1138 (1971) - covers 4 out 8 themes
Network (1976) - covers 4 out 8 themes
Squid Game Season 1 (2021) - covers 3 out 8 themes
Ergo Proxy (2006, the anime series) - covers 3 out of 8 themes
The Fool / Дурак (2014) - covers 3 out 8 themes
Thanks for the recommendations, Murikov. I’ll look into these.