I think the key takeaway is that there are limits to what the individual can do. He either recognizes the limits that society places on him or he bands together with other men and leaves society or goes to war with society.
That is something that could also be elaborated on in your article. Many of these men left the West. Roosh, Lira, Forney. Most small-time PUA types live in SE Asia now. There they can go to prostitutes without having a mental breakdown because no one looks down on them for it.
The middle guy must be picking up chicks easily due to height. Others thought he had some kind of PUA secret. So he started charging others for “muh mystery… muh seduction” and that’s how PUA industry got started.
The things people do when they are young and energetic and don't have a clue what else to do or why. Interesting modern subcultural review and introduction to the insider terminology thereof. Young males with revving engines but slipping clutches.
Pretty much says the same thing, I agree. Much energy available for harnessing by themselves or others, though. Is how households used to be established.
I do think these people are fascinating on some level.
I think one of these fellows married a gal that actually didn't fall for his tricks. I suspect the whole thing was akin to realizing you're in a matrix and most people are NPCs that can be easily manipulated - that's why he eventually settled down with one non-npc. The understanding that the whole world is filled with NPCs most likely still remains, however - and that's a frightening prospect on its own.
Anyway, he’s married with three kids now to a Muslim Persian lady and still posts for 16 hours a day about stupid civnat stuff on Twitter. I followed him for a little bit years ago and he would go back through his Tweet archives and regularly delete bad predictions and wrongthoughts that were making him look bad. He will not discuss issues or topics that could get him de-boosted or removed from Twitter.
I’m sure you probably know by now that Gonzalo Lira died while in prison, as he predicted he would, in three last videos, the first of which is on YouTube and entitled I’m About To Cross The Border 1/3.
The PUA sphere really needs someone to make a giant book with all of the things that work and are true, publish it, and then have it be “the” book. The one everyone points to when discussing this sort of stuff.
All of the big questions the groups met up for originally have all been answered, and the sphere floundered afterword with more and more outrageous personalities and grifter types slowly moving in. Whole thing runs on fumes now.
Sure you need to keep up with the times. Early 2008 advice won’t work as the world is a much different place. But people haven’t changed.
Yes. If I don't marry a half-brain and add hearing her confused nonsense and smiling to it when at the end of the day I am done with the obligation I have to hear confused nonsense and smile to it in society and at "work", I am going to give off creepy-pervert vibes. I already do.
But at least there are chances I don't end my life jumping off a bridge — I doubt there would be chances for that if I had to co-exist with a lady, and her thinking and critical thinking faculties.
Rolo is still trying to push red pill content on YouTube. He has apparently settled down with a woman but claims he won’t get married. Still looks like a 50 year old ex skater boi
Great read. Takes me back.
I think the key takeaway is that there are limits to what the individual can do. He either recognizes the limits that society places on him or he bands together with other men and leaves society or goes to war with society.
That is something that could also be elaborated on in your article. Many of these men left the West. Roosh, Lira, Forney. Most small-time PUA types live in SE Asia now. There they can go to prostitutes without having a mental breakdown because no one looks down on them for it.
LOL forgot about forney
Ah yes, the mannerbund
Might need a slight post mortem.
Coach Red Pill was later basically murdered by Ukrainian authorities in jail.
Gonzalo Lira was tortured and then murdered by the Ukrainian government.
RIP Gonzalo Lira.
The middle guy must be picking up chicks easily due to height. Others thought he had some kind of PUA secret. So he started charging others for “muh mystery… muh seduction” and that’s how PUA industry got started.
The things people do when they are young and energetic and don't have a clue what else to do or why. Interesting modern subcultural review and introduction to the insider terminology thereof. Young males with revving engines but slipping clutches.
Reminds me of another idiom: being "young, dumb, and full of cum", https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/young%2c+dumb%2c+and+full+of+cum
Pretty much says the same thing, I agree. Much energy available for harnessing by themselves or others, though. Is how households used to be established.
I do think these people are fascinating on some level.
I think one of these fellows married a gal that actually didn't fall for his tricks. I suspect the whole thing was akin to realizing you're in a matrix and most people are NPCs that can be easily manipulated - that's why he eventually settled down with one non-npc. The understanding that the whole world is filled with NPCs most likely still remains, however - and that's a frightening prospect on its own.
What about Cernovich??
When I think of Cernovich and PUA, what mostly comes to mind is the time he had sex with a transsexual, discussed it in detail online, then later tried denying it was written by him: https://occidentaldissent.com/2017/03/16/tranny-surprise-w-mike-cernovich/
Anyway, he’s married with three kids now to a Muslim Persian lady and still posts for 16 hours a day about stupid civnat stuff on Twitter. I followed him for a little bit years ago and he would go back through his Tweet archives and regularly delete bad predictions and wrongthoughts that were making him look bad. He will not discuss issues or topics that could get him de-boosted or removed from Twitter.
"A salty chemical taste..."
I’m sure you probably know by now that Gonzalo Lira died while in prison, as he predicted he would, in three last videos, the first of which is on YouTube and entitled I’m About To Cross The Border 1/3.
His death was announced on Twitter and on YouTube channels such as The Grayzone: https://youtu.be/CbJI_GP1IGo?si=ypq_Oi7AF1_a4Ae6
The PUA sphere really needs someone to make a giant book with all of the things that work and are true, publish it, and then have it be “the” book. The one everyone points to when discussing this sort of stuff.
All of the big questions the groups met up for originally have all been answered, and the sphere floundered afterword with more and more outrageous personalities and grifter types slowly moving in. Whole thing runs on fumes now.
Sure you need to keep up with the times. Early 2008 advice won’t work as the world is a much different place. But people haven’t changed.
Very interesting read! Enjoyed it. Kudos for the research that inspired it.
Yes. If I don't marry a half-brain and add hearing her confused nonsense and smiling to it when at the end of the day I am done with the obligation I have to hear confused nonsense and smile to it in society and at "work", I am going to give off creepy-pervert vibes. I already do.
But at least there are chances I don't end my life jumping off a bridge — I doubt there would be chances for that if I had to co-exist with a lady, and her thinking and critical thinking faculties.
Rolo is still trying to push red pill content on YouTube. He has apparently settled down with a woman but claims he won’t get married. Still looks like a 50 year old ex skater boi
Rollo has been married for decades already
Lol, GLO is spreading his Jewishness here on Substack probably because the TRP reddit knockoff echochamber got surpassed by donald dot win.