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Sam's avatar

From my post on FB - I don't spend a lot of time on composing those, but they do get my ideas across.

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stock market is BS - any company and any nation that joins the stock market BS becomes a subject of external control. Aside from that, stock market is not a reflection of economy - it's a mechanism for creating illusions, which are being pushed via different narratives by the 'experts' in the field.

Most of the stockmarket is owned by the cabal. Even if a company were to stop selling all products for a year, cabal could keep the money in that stock and it wouldn't budge, no matter how dire the financial position of the company had become.

Looking at today's chart - it seems as if the cabal is pulling its money from the stock market. That will later be used to justify the crashing banks. That will later be used to justify crashing economy. That will later be used to justify unveiling the new digital 'solution'.

In that regard, I am reminded of the Iraq war fiasco. Cabal-owned NYT published a BS story about Iraq having WMDs with an actor pretending to have inside knowledge. That story was then used by the cabal-owned government officials (was it Cheney?) in order to justify starting the war in Iraq. It's a closed loop system - the actors, the script, all linked up - and it works as long as the pleb class buys it, which it does and will continue to buy for the foreseeable future.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Strong comment, Sam.

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James Green's avatar

I agree completely. Economics as a whole is entirely fake.

On your notes on managed reality I don’t think it’s entirely hopeless. We were able to stop the COVID scam before the end of that film… They obviously wanted Australian prison camps and ID chip implants but pushback made them back off, at least temporarily.

In other words, we have a small chance of muddling through. If events continue to get more chaotic, cabals won’t be able to manage them completely. https://grainofwheat.substack.com/p/doge-will-win-through-chaos?r=1mcpmt

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Sam's avatar

There are some signs that the cult of personality model is starting to crack... they tried to get Alex Jones' audience to join the nwo - so they bought off AJ, but looking at the comments under AJ's posts, it doesn't look like his followers are ready to join him on his path into the abyss.

Even Elon Musk posts aren't having much effect, as his followers are becoming quickly disillusioned.

Having said that - some posts seem purposely designed to create the said disillusionment. Trump's mocking post about killing off a bunch of Houthis standing in a rectangle formation already looked pretty juvenile - and now it looks like they weren't even military - just a tribal villagers' meeting.

Is it incompetence? A failure of the 'regain the trust' initiative? Or is it all part of the script?

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James Green's avatar

I don’t think there is a singular script. I just think there’s a schism between two (both still dangerous) camps amidst the elite/deep state and no one’s fully getting to work out any script or any plan perfectly.

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Freelander's avatar

Hmm... As to the covid scam, my impression is, rather, that they themselves decided to stop it, and replace it with the war in Ukraine. But the covid experiment was, I would say, totally successful, which is why -in my opinion- they finalized it. In fact, my thesis is that they're preparing another scamdemic to replace the war in Ukraine with in due time.

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Martin Castillo's avatar

I appreciate that you pointed out ..... "Tariffs - which is the official but false excuse for Numbers Go Down (the elites simply determine if or when to crash the market, as they did in 1929"

We've learned a lot in recent years about how fake and rigged is most everything under the sun, normally faked and rigged using our tax dollars. USAID was a nice recent window into how that all works. Yet somehow, in spite of all that, some people still believe that this regime, which rigs everything that is important and critical to it, would just leave the stock market to chance. They even admit out loud that it's rigged, using phrases like the Greenspan Put or the Powell Put. They'll spend all day on CNBC arguing about what the Fed will or won't do, but in the next breath tell you it's a "free market."

If the markets were what they are claimed to be, and not rigged, and full of rational actors etc., then I submit to you that the tariff announcement would not have caused this sharp of an immediate drop. It wouldn't be good times in the market either, but it wouldn't be this. The present narrative is a little too neat and convenient. Kind of reminds me of the early days of the plandemic.

I have zero sympathy for anyone who was heavily invested in what was clearly, obviously, blatantly a bubblicious market. (The leading stocks had P/Es in the 50s! Higher!) They could only have been so on the basis of greed and/or dogma ("never sell!", "the market always goes up over time!"). Funny how such "convictions" are lost inside of a week.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Yes, exactly; the stock market is entirely rigged. Our elites always run with a narrative that the public is not mentally or spiritually prepared for. They don’t hit them from the angles they are ready to resist, for example busting out another round of fraudvirus/lockdowns again or BLM or the 2020 election steal. They don’t work that way. The public is not mentally/spiritually prepared for a crash based around protectionalism.

The upper elites may deflate the biggest bubble of all time and use it to smear populists for the setup and massive resulting problems they themselves created; look how all the framing right now is about Trump’s stock market decline as opposed to the entirely engineered bubble created from shoving infinite Federal Reserve loldollars into the stock market. The elites love to smear their enemies in this manner because, in part, it deflects public anger away from them…

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Freelander's avatar

I very much doubt that the upcoming plandemic (that I predict will "happen" soon after Putin's SMO ends) won't be as successsful as covid was. Perhaps there might be a few more dissidents, seeing as the un-masked & un-vaxed did not die or fall sick in higher numbers as augured, but overall I still see around me approximately the same amount of people firmly believing it was a real and extremely dangerous pandemic, and definitely I still see the same amount of obedient and compliant citizens.

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

I recommend that you do a predictions post (like mine: https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/2024-predictions-review-and-2025 ) and revisit it at the end of the year, updating beliefs around wrong predictions accordingly. Personally I don't believe there will be another fake pandemic.

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Freelander's avatar

I read that post of yours. A laudable, honest exercise on your part that I haven't seen anywhere else. Most people only boast about their correct forecasts and totally forget about -when not deny- the wrong ones. But I'm much less disciplined than you and, most importantly, I make almost no predictions. So, I do not need such a post to keep track of them. Anyway, I'd be very glad to hear from you if, a few weeks/months after the end of the SMO, I turn out to be wrong, and you right. :-) Or inversely.

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Martin Castillo's avatar

I challenge anyone to look at the price action on this morning of 4/7/2025 and tell me how this happens "organically"

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Stefan Webb's avatar

Some part of me used to believe that if it all collapsed far enough, it might jolt people out of the stupor of this pseudo-quantification. That something human might emerge.

But I think you’re right. Most don’t have the spiritual footing or inner architecture to face what would be left. They’ve outsourced too much meaning, value, and their identity to the numbers themselves.

When the music stops most are listless (see virus response in 2020).

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Hollis Brown's avatar

great essay.

there is a saying that money doesn’t change people, it reveals them. the same could be said for crisis. this was most apparent during Covid and now it’s also clear during this stock dip. the Trumpers cheer when they see the libs crying in the desert but the minute the line goes down they lose their shit? pathetic.

the difference between the economy and the stock market was never more apparent than at the beginning of the pandemic. the world literally locked people in their homes and only allowed ‘essential’ people out and the stock market went on one of the fastest bull runs in history! I knew how the system worked and even I was shocked. my moms portfolio did better in 2020-2021 than at anytime in her life. I’ve tried to tell my friends that the amount of overvaluation in the stock market is massive, but they insisted that another crash wouldn’t happen. of course now they think it’s inevitable cuz they get to blame Trump. it’s all so ridiculous.

I agree that it’s never been a better time to live humbly and within one’s means. I think those of us who can stay grounded through this upheaval, will survive with our sanity and spirit intact.

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Max Rottersman's avatar

In 1918 Oswald Spengler pointed out that the Greeks were totally capable of creating a math for calculus (which is the math of growth). They didn't, he argued, because they believed it irrational to create numbers for objects that don't exist in real life. He also argued that contrary to what people assume, the predominant math of a culture defines its values.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Heinz von Foerester -what is reality?

He also explains how physics made up particles to fulfill formulas. Science became imaginary, especially quantum physics.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ev7e9sfWIJo

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Max Rottersman's avatar

Yeah, Sabine can rant for an hour on that and others on "String" theory. I see the same with Starship. 100% imagination and 0% thrust ;)

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Stefan Webb's avatar

This is incredibly interesting.

Materialism seems to have bred the use of calculus. Calculus enabled technics as Spengler would call it.

Thus calculus unleashed this obsession with grown, technical accelerations, and even human quantification.

Can we suggest that calculus is the math of the machine? It is to feed a god that never stops consuming.

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Crumpet's avatar

That's really interesting - a thought occurred to me today that this mythical 'company culture' is significantly tied to KPIs and Performance metrics. If you measure peoples performance and use it as a stick to beat them or reward them with, expect a particular culure downstream from that.

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Max Rottersman's avatar

Great point! Exactly!!!

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Wallfacer's avatar

Why was the stock market originally invented? Well…. The stock market as we know it or Atleast might be able to recognize it began in the Netherlands. When you had a business venture that no one organization could get the funds for, and banks did not want to take the risk, you would shop the idea around to various merchants and tradesmen.

This was often for a ship. The investors would invest in a voyage and then split the earnings based on their percentage of investment in the venture.

They got the idea to split a company into shares and then to keep the business going. Not a single venture but an ongoing concern.

The stock market arose as a way of trading these shares of stock in these businesses, and their value of course changed constantly.

No one ever did a joint stock company if they could go it alone, and no one did a joint stock company if they had a partnership with family and extremely close friends.

Come to today, how often do people use the stock market to “cash out”?

How often does private equity buy up companies, saddle them with the debts they accrued to buy the company and then take it public in the hopes of paying that debt in part or in full?

The stock market is a sham as it doesn’t actually serve its stated purpose. But remember the POSIWID principle: the purpose of a system is what it does

If the stock market currently is a way of moving money, operating complex financial trust games and shifting debt, then that is its real purpose.

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Martin Castillo's avatar

Both of Trump's treasury secretaries, Mnuchin and Bessent, were past business partners of Soros

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Telimektar's avatar

You're right indeed, donor to Hillary,Obama and Romney too, Trump certainly knows how to pick them

"And Trump had dealings with Soros years ago. Soros gave “Trump a mezzanine loan, which is basically a bailout, because Trump didn’t want to, or couldn’t, front his own money to build the Chicago Trump Tower,” Jen Kuznicki reported at Conservative Review back in February. “Mezzanine loans are loans offered with outrageous interest that help the developer on the front end of finance, and which often offer a stake in the building,” she explained. Left-wing blogger Rick Cohen noted in 2014 that Mnuchin is a philanthropist “with a family foundation (the Steven and Heather Mnuchin Foundation), a trustee of other foundations, and with service as a board member at the Los Angeles Police Foundation and the Museum of Contemporary Art.”

https://canadafreepress.com/article/steven-mnuchin-an-ex-employee-of-soros-as-treasury-secretary

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Martin Castillo's avatar

It doesn't say so there, but Soros was a financial backer of Mnuchin's buyout of Indymac in 2009 which he turned into One West Bank. It's on his wikipedia page, no big secret

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Left brained bias, as written extensively by Iain McGilchrist explains this obsession with numbers, ignoring the big picture.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/left-brain-vs-whole-brain-in-battlestar

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

Interesting essay. I know nothing of the stock market so that this helped fill some gaps in my knowledge. Thanks.

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LinMaree's avatar

Same here. And, have never had enough o-the-dollars to even consider being involved in it. I do believe I’ve been saved a lot of anxiety, based on how I see some of the reactions of those I know - a d don’t know - who ARE able to be a part of it.

Strange.

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Agenda 37's avatar

In the real world this is a good move. Free trade is to economics and national industry what open borders is to national security and demographics. Free trade is high trust, and the European brain of the advanced Western nations has been hijacked to swallow down all the warm-fuzzy free trade propaganda for decades. But we don't live in the real world, we live in the fake and gay one. The one where 1929 happens, and where Japan's "lost decade" happens. Whether or not this is just another part of the elite controlled demolition remains to be seen, but they are of course holding the Trump card.

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Alex Fox's avatar

Nice, thought-provoking post. I disagree with your assumptions about the reason the market goes up and down - as Martin Armstrong has detailed exhaustively, market manipulation efforts can cause noise in the short term, but are incapable of changing the overall trend - but your thesis about the psychological impact of The Numbers is totally valid. Incidentally, I recently read Ellul's "Technological Society" myself. I was very impressed with it, and am curious to read your thoughts on it. I suspect that, on that topic, our perspectives will be closely aligned.

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Freelander's avatar

Excellent post as usual, Neo. I not knowing about economy much more than the average Joe, still everything you've written here makes good sense to me, matches my intuition and resonates with my own thoughts. Even though the stock exchange is influenced by real events (like for instance commodities' prices, or changes in demand/offer), such real up-and-downs navigate the more important groundswell created manipulatively, somehow like the pitch of a vessel on the sea's groundswell, or like the HF radio waves travel within the longer waves in FM.

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John "The Savage"'s avatar

"If you can't count what's important, you make what you can count important"- James Willbanks, Army advisor, in Ken Burns' Vietnam War series (ep. 4) describing how the body count metric came to dominate as a proxy for success. Decision-making informed by an exclusive focus on metrics has since become known as the McNamara Fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNamara_fallacy).

I once worked as a salaried wagecuck when our business was bought out by a large bank. We had a sales guy who was in reality an introducer of business introducers and a very good one at that. When I learned that he was to be let go by the new owner I ask the CEO why this was. "We don't have a remuneration model which fits his job" I was told. I was dumbstruck.

It seems to me that nothing of genuine value is enumerable - by definition probably. The invention of money was truly a curse from the Gods. Everything may now be sold and once the price it set its value is destroyed. Money is truly the root of all evil. At least when the numbers go down the Mammon-worshipers are revealed. Good post.

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Joshua Allen Michael's avatar

In a previous post you wrote that the percentage of the Earth’s population comprised of European ancestry has declined from 25% to 6.5 % over the past 10o years. Where may I find this sort of census data?

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Hyperbohemian's avatar

I'm glad that you mention the Line Go Up divide and conquer stunt during COVID - it feels like the current Line Go Down "crisis" is very much the same thing, just with swapped actor rosters.

Just as we had legions of these people cheering on all the fake social causes over lockdown while their lowers languished in increasing poverty, it now looks like it's *our* turn to engage in some schadenfreude laughing at boomers finally "getting it for once" - while all the money lost by what amounts to a generational human shield gets siphoned back up to the elite. It all just seems like one big theatre of tragicomedy where we take turns being actors and audience members, but never playwrights.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Pythagoras knew numbers are magical. That is a basis of Hermeticism and Alchemy.

Central Bankers and our "elite" use numbers as black magic, to manipulate and rule over us.

This post is more like White magic and numbers.

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Stan Sylvester's avatar

"Whenever the people need a hero, we shall supply him." Albert Pike 33rd Degree Freemason. It's amazing to me how the MAGA folks just keep trusting the plan. Fool them once with Covid, shame on you, fool them twice with tariffs......

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