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Rurik Skywalker's avatar

the changes that have been unleashed on us in the last 10 years are on the scale of once-in-a-lifetime events for previous generations. it is simply cope to think that marriage will be able to survive the massive social engineering that has been wrought on society going forward. as an institution, marriage is simply gone among 30 and unders.

in general, women have no agency and are just the reflection of social trends and chthonic psychic undercurrents sweeping through our age. they are a like a dirty, cracked, distorted mirror reflecting all of society's ills at us. they are the frontline soldiers of the regime, enforcing the terror and nastiness that has been cooked up for us.

the insane sex obsession, novelty drive, rampant narcissism, social climbing, vicious shaming tactics, ratting out others for personal gain, the mental illness, hormonal disorder, desire to hurt and main and snuff out life, etc. these behaviors are tolerated in women and even held up as good things. this is because men are essentially second-class citizens. we don't have the same rights or privileges as women do anymore. we are essentially powerless when it comes to women tyrannizing us in schools, at the workplace, in the family, at the level of politics, etc.

men have no recourse at all.

thus, i think that talk of marriage at this stage of decline is akin to polishing the brass on the Titanic.

i don't know of a single healthy m/f relationship among anyone that i've ever met. not one. not growing up and not now, even among so-called "trad" advocates. men should cut themselves some slack. we're in the middle of a raging wildfire that will consume the old world. social life as we used to know it is simply over, people are just in denial about this.

what is the answer to this?

well, i think the correct mental model to adopt is essentially to view oneself as being in a hostile wilderness. society is the unforgiving cold or the saber-tooth tigers. social organization is a tool to survive the elements. all that is detrimental to survival has to be jettisoned, including these old ways of thinking about relationships and so on.

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The last essay C.S. Lewis ever published before his death was entitled, "We Have No Right to Happiness," and was about this very topic. He also covers the breakdown of marriage in "That Hideous Strength" against the backdrop of a world run by a Transhumanist conspiracy.

Very ahead of his time.

Lewis is holding to a sacramental view of marriage and as a Christian I agree with him. I think it's the only way out of this mess but it will take several generations, if only because the youth are so broken - young women by hypergamy, men by pornography, all by Boomer divorce.

Some people view Church as a magic spell that turns hypergamous women into doting housewives but that's simply not how it works. Lewis knew this in the 40s. I feel for young men who are trying to be monogamous but whose only options are often women who've swapped fluids and tossed aside several men before finally seeking material security in marriage as they age.

It's a terrible foundation for a family - Christian or not, there are spiritual laws of cause and effect. Traditionally, licentious women would've found repentance in the chastity of a Monastery, not in marriage, but this practice is even more broken than marriage.

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