Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Observer's avatar

I bought his Submission at a flea market a couple of years ago but haven't gotten around to it yet. This piece of yours definitely made me put it higher on my to read-list.

Houellebecq said: "“People who have humanitarian ideas are a catastrophe. It doesn’t work and motivations are doubtful.”…"

It reminds me of H. L. Mencken's "The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it."

Expand full comment
Joshua Derrick's avatar

Been waiting for this for a while. You seem to share a lot of my own impressions of the book(https://deusexvita.substack.com/p/review-7-of-2024-submission-by-michel). Would love to hear a little more about why you think Catholicism isn't a potential solution (and why I think Houellebecq agrees). Another large part of the novel is François trying to follow in Huysmans footsteps and trying to be Catholic, but walking away and choosing Islam when it doesn't do it for him. My thought is that the big problem with Catholicism is that it is far too skin suited by the globo homo. The church basically allowed the sex scandal stuff to happen without doing much to stop it, and also doesn't enforce its own views with the same intensity as Islam and even the earlier Church (the Pope used to lead armies to war). On the parish level there's still a lot of virtue: my local priests have helped me a lot with overcoming certain spiritual problems (nihilism, porn use), but it's just not enough. Young people need to be getting married and we need to be rebuilding community, but my priests at least are not so good at helping with this. There's also a sense that the church has lost the fight against secularism almost completely, and now all that remains is fighting a brave rear guard action. I don't know, I say this all as a practicing Catholic, but I just don't see a way forward for the church unless there are massive changes on all levels of the hierarchy. I don't want to see an Islamic world, and I don't believe the intellectual forces of secularism (the gospel of growth) are up to facing our current challenges. I guess the personal solution is just to focus on gnostic spiritual growth as you say in other posts.

Expand full comment
19 more comments...

No posts